Envelope-to: gay@localhost Delivery-date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:49:55 +0100
Michael Tronjara wrote:
Politeness is required on this list. *plonk*
Mike
Michael, might I suggest your understanding of that word differs from the majority of us on this list.
Many times people have written in pointing out problems with stunnel crashing, dumping core, locking up, yet all you can offer is 'never report problems with older versions', 'you have no right to complain', etc etc, and now you have the arrogance to tell us all we have no clue how to report bugs.
I get the feeling you are upset because so many of us discover problems with this software.
Andrew
"Andrew Gay" andrew@ssynth.co.uk wrote:
Many times people have written in pointing out problems with stunnel crashing, dumping core, locking up, yet all you can offer is 'never report problems with older versions', 'you have no right to complain', etc etc, and now you have the arrogance to tell us all we have no clue how to report bugs.
1. You're hurting me saying "all you can offer is [...]". That's me that fixed most of the problems reported here. Did you read the ChangeLog recently?
2. I don't recall saying that, but yes - you have no right to complain. I spend a lot of time finding bugs on numerous platforms supported by stunnel. I'm really trying to help. I do have a job and a family that both need my attention. In fact there's an option to have a right to complain: just purchase a support contract.
3. I can't agree I'm arrogant. I'm really trying to help you to report problems effectively. Don't waste my time and time of other 375 stunnel-users subscribers by sending "I didn't attempt to read the manual (upgrade to the latest version, search the mailing list archive), so please explain me" reports.
I get the feeling you are upset because so many of us discover problems with this software.
No, I'm not. I'm just honest. When I think that error reports should be useful I articulate it. If you don't like my policy you can stop using my software.
Best regards, Mike
Maybe you should host a bugtracking system and move the bug reporting from the mailing list to it. It should clear things up..
Take a look at www.mantisbt.org ;)
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:14:13 +0300, Michal Trojnara Michal.Trojnara@mobi-com.net wrote:
"Andrew Gay" andrew@ssynth.co.uk wrote:
Many times people have written in pointing out problems with stunnel crashing, dumping core, locking up, yet all you can offer is 'never report problems with older versions', 'you have no right to complain', etc etc, and now you have the arrogance to tell us all we have no clue how to report bugs.
- You're hurting me saying "all you can offer is [...]". That's me
that fixed most of the problems reported here. Did you read the ChangeLog recently?
- I don't recall saying that, but yes - you have no right to complain.
I spend a lot of time finding bugs on numerous platforms supported by stunnel. I'm really trying to help. I do have a job and a family that both need my attention. In fact there's an option to have a right to complain: just purchase a support contract.
- I can't agree I'm arrogant. I'm really trying to help you to report
problems effectively. Don't waste my time and time of other 375 stunnel-users subscribers by sending "I didn't attempt to read the manual (upgrade to the latest version, search the mailing list archive), so please explain me" reports.
I get the feeling you are upset because so many of us discover problems with this software.
No, I'm not. I'm just honest. When I think that error reports should be useful I articulate it. If you don't like my policy you can stop using my software.
Best regards, Mike _______________________________________________ stunnel-users mailing list stunnel-users@mirt.net http://stunnel.mirt.net/mailman/listinfo/stunnel-users
"Ionut Turturica" ionut.turturica@galati.uti.ro wrote:
Maybe you should host a bugtracking system and move the bug reporting from the mailing list to it. It should clear things up..
Take a look at www.mantisbt.org ;)
Good idea. I use postgresql and I prefer to avoid installing another one.
What about: http://flyspray.rocks.cc/ Does anyone have experience with it? Any other interesting options?
Best regards, Mike
It works with postgresql too. Few months back I was required to install a (free) bugtracking system for our company. I had to choose between bugzilla, mantis and flyspray and I choosed mantis. It's very customizable (php), lots of features, and so on...I'm very satisfied with it.
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:37:50 +0300, Michal Trojnara Michal.Trojnara@mobi-com.net wrote:
"Ionut Turturica" ionut.turturica@galati.uti.ro wrote:
Maybe you should host a bugtracking system and move the bug reporting from the mailing list to it. It should clear things up..
Take a look at www.mantisbt.org ;)
Good idea. I use postgresql and I prefer to avoid installing another one.
What about: http://flyspray.rocks.cc/ Does anyone have experience with it? Any other interesting options?
Best regards, Mike _______________________________________________ stunnel-users mailing list stunnel-users@mirt.net http://stunnel.mirt.net/mailman/listinfo/stunnel-users
"Ionut Turturica" ionut.turturica@galati.uti.ro wrote:
Few months back I was required to install a (free) bugtracking system for our company. I had to choose between bugzilla, mantis and flyspray and I choosed mantis. It's very customizable (php), lots of features, and so on...I'm very satisfied with it.
Ok. You can try this one: http://stunnel.mirt.net/flyspray/
Best regards, Mike
On 5 Aug 2005 at 14:37, Michal Trojnara wrote:
"Ionut Turturica" ionut.turturica@galati.uti.ro wrote:
Maybe you should host a bugtracking system and move the bug reporting from the mailing list to it. It should clear things up..
Take a look at www.mantisbt.org ;)
Good idea. I use postgresql and I prefer to avoid installing another one.
We use Mantis on the Bacula project. The programmers are very happy with it. See http://bugs.bacula.org/
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