Good Morning I hope there is someone on this group who can assist? I am running Eudora 6.2.0.14, Stunnel-4.04, SpamPal 1,583 win 2k on D drive / Stunnel on e (partitions not physical) startup line E:\stunnel\stunnel-4.04.exe Stunnel log after running it (systray icon appears to suggest it is started and Services app allowed me to start it) 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG5[3216:208]: stunnel 4.04 on x86-pc-mingw32-gnu WIN32 with OpenSSL 0.9.7c 30 Sep 2003 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: Snagged 64 random bytes from C:/.rnd 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: Wrote 1024 new random bytes to C:/.rnd 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: RAND_status claims sufficient entropy for the PRNG 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG6[3216:1504]: PRNG seeded successfully 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG5[3216:1504]: WIN32 platform: 30000 clients allowed 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: FD 324 in non-blocking mode 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept socket 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: pop bound to 127.0.0.1:1109 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: FD 332 in non-blocking mode 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept socket 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: imap bound to 127.0.0.1:1439 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: FD 340 in non-blocking mode 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept socket 2004.12.22 08:15:32 LOG7[3216:1504]: smtp bound to 127.0.0.1:259 Eudora settings: username: myloginname@gmail.com@127.0.0.1:1109 smtp server:127.0.0.1 incoming server as POP and local ohst or 127.0.0.1 see below I can RECEIVE Gmail ok but SENDING prompts a "Could not connect to "127.0.0.1" Cause: connection refused (10061) ditto if "localhost" is used as the pop server in steadof 127.0.0.1 I have Hotmail Popper on 127.0.0.2 for hotmail and Spampal/Eudora is fine with that Hotmail Popper? A method to send/receive Hotmail via POP http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/ Spampal? http://www.spampal.org a free spam tagging proxy(?) I am now in the realms of "playing about" to try and fix this outgoing mail issue HOWEVER I am sure someone in this forum has Gmail happily sending and receiving!!!! Gmail REQUIRES SSL A connection to my university email will not SEND over IMAP and needs to go out via SMTP as it requires a verified internal IP address to work (relay denied) I am uncertain of how the SSL settings in Eudora need to be set to allow Gmail to both send/receive using Required Alternate Post as given in the online help for Gmail via spampal and Stunnel http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13279&query=eudora&topi... ( aka: http://tinyurl.com/5vp6u ) Your learned wisdom would be welcome!!!! Regards John "Fatbloke" Bullas Southampton UK Yes I know Spampal and Gmail is "belt and braces" but I have a challenge here!!!! Justified "give up you can't" would be equally appreciated ** Eudora Mail 6.2 / McAfee Virus Scan 4.5.1 / Sp*mPal **